Sunday, May 31, 2009

But it's not terrorism when Americans kill people for religious reasons

via The Witchita Eagle:

WICHITA - George Tiller, the Wichita doctor who became a national lightning rod in the debate over abortion, was shot to death this morning inside the lobby of his Wichita church.

Tiller, 67, was shot just after 10 a.m. at Reformation Lutheran Church at 7601 E. 13th, where he was a member of the congregation. Witnesses and a police source confirmed Tiller was the victim.

Police said they are looking for white male who was driving a 1990s powder blue Ford Taurus with Kansas license plate 225 BAB. The vehicle is registered to an owner in Merriam, which is in the Kansas City area.

On Friday, November 3, 2006, Bill O'Reilly featured an exclusive segment on his show, The O'Reilly Factor, saying that he has an "inside source" with official clinic documentation indicating that George Tiller performs late-term abortions to alleviate "temporary depression" in the pregnant woman. According to reporting data provided to the Kansas Board of Healing Arts for the year 1998, all of the post-viable partial-birth (dilation and extraction) abortion procedures performed in Kansas during that year were performed because "the attending physician believe[d] that continuing the pregnancy [would] constitute a substantial and irreversible impairment of the patient's mental function." Tiller responded to O'Reilly's statements by demanding an investigation into the "inside source" through which the information was leaked, suggesting that Phill Kline, then the Kansas Attorney General, was responsible. Kline denied the charge.

What do I think? I don't care, keep it legal. There are plenty of horrid things happening in the world that are less abstract and that present themselves to us with a larger moral imperative to address.

Tiller was murdered in church.

I don't mean to go all Giuliani, but do you remember, late afternoon on 9/11, when the news posted video recorded in the Gaza Strip? There were gatherings of Palestinian Arabs dancing in the streets with raucous fervor:

Like everyone who saw that footage, I wanted to jump through my TV screen, pummel those people, drag them to ground zero, and rub their faces in the smoldering wreckage.

I bring this up, because of the reaction amongst the majority of commenters at FreeRepublic, a popular right-wing website. (pdf here and here, in case they wipe the thread.)

To: upchuck

Tiller has committed outrage after outrage and not only gotten away with it, he has made a fortune! Sooner or later this had to happen.

2 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:11:32 PM by Anti-Bubba182
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To: upchuck

What goes around comes around...
To: Gay State Conservative

One less nazi as far as I am concerned.

8 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:15:21 PM by imahawk (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
To: Anti-Bubba182

Hope the guy gets away.

10 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:15:31 PM by Turret Gunner A20
To: SnakeDoctor
Thou Shalt Not Murder.

But, wasn't this just another late term abortion(?)
32 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:23:58 PM by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
To: ansel12

You, also, are entitled to your opinion. Equivocators and appeasers have something to say, too....Pardon me if it falls on deaf ears.
To: Gay State Conservative

To: PapaBear3625
Take a look at how Daily Kos is covering reactions of FR.

I would worry about what those boneheads are saying as I would worry about what a monkey was thinking watching a chess match.
(Hi, Kostards!)

162 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:06:17 PM by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
To: calico_thompson
Well, at least the perp didn’t rip his arms and legs off and then suck his brains out.

The best pot so far in this thread!!!
101 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:59:27 PM by Turret Gunner A20

Some of the commenters were advocating that murder is murder, and taking the general position that nothing justifies it, to their credit. The despicable thing to me is the smugness with which some people celebrate human suffering. It is not okay when it is an Arab jumping up and down on 9/12, and it is just as wrong when it is a Christian expressing glee over the murder of a doctor.


"Sometimes, when the stubborn wickedness of a people offends God, the Almighty witholds His divine protection, permitting those sinners to have their own way, following the road to destruction so that they are subjected to evil rulers and unjust laws. Never, however, does the wise and faithful Christian resort to the kind of lawlessness practiced with such cruelty today in Kansas."
- Conservative Pundit, American Taliban Spokesman Robert Stacy McCain.

Kathryn Jean Lopez at the World's Shittiest Website:
The National Right to Life Committee does the right thing:



Mike Hendricks: Columnist for the Kansas City Star (Read the whole thing):
However, the motive for the crime we can all surmise in light of the vitriolic campaign that has been waged against Tiller for more than two decades by anti-abortion groups.

And if we're right about that, then we already know the identities of his accomplices.

They include every one who has ever called Tiller's late term abortion clinic a murder mill.

Who ever called Tiller "Tiller the Killer."

The groups who spent decades fomenting hate toward a man who simply believed that he was serving a purpose by being one of the few doctors in the country performing late-term abortions.

Hate. Not heated opposition. Not strong disagreement.

But blind hatred.

The kind of hate that would prompt some maniac to take a gun into a church and shoot a man to death in front of friends and family.

His accomplices know they have blood on their hands, which might explain why they were quick to issue statements today expressing disapproval of Tiller's murder.

Moderates need to police their fringe elements, not the other way around.

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